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Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 8 @ 10:35 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Rookies and Callup Candidates
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 8 @ 10:37 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Rookies and Callup Candidates
- bmeltzer


Limited depth
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 8 @ 10:55 AM ET
Limited depth
- ob18


It's not so bad, and it should swing a bit more in our favor after this upcoming draft.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 8 @ 10:57 AM ET
It's not so bad, and it should swing a bit more in our favor after this upcoming draft.
- wolfhounds


That is a hope I have as well.
sarmen25
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 8 @ 10:59 AM ET
Limited depth
- ob18


Good thing that most of our forwards are under 24
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 8 @ 11:00 AM ET
I still think they should resign Hall. They need a good faceoff guy for the 4th line.
killercam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 07.05.2006

Jun 8 @ 11:11 AM ET
Bill, how about Kyle Flanagan?
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jun 8 @ 11:19 AM ET
Today, is a glorious day!
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 8 @ 11:19 AM ET
I still think they should resign Hall. They need a good faceoff guy for the 4th line.
- Feanor


i'd rather see them sign someone like boyd gordon than throw too much money at a top 9 winger
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jun 8 @ 11:21 AM ET
Bill, how about Kyle Flanagan?
- killercam


It's possible. I didn't list him because didn't look NHL-ready in his time with the Phantoms last year (whereas Matt Read immediately looked like he could be too good for the AHL in a similar-length stint after the end of his college career).

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 8 @ 11:23 AM ET
i'd rather see them sign someone like boyd gordon than throw too much money at a top 9 winger
- FlyerMike18


What are your thoughts on Simon Gagne?

I personally think they should move on. If he signs for $1.2-1.5M than I guess I could live with it.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 8 @ 11:26 AM ET
i'd rather see them sign someone like boyd gordon than throw too much money at a top 9 winger
- FlyerMike18


Hall, after the events of last season, would likely sign for the minimum. And I think it would be wise to have a solid FO guy on the team. That made a huge difference for Boston in Game 1.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 8 @ 11:27 AM ET
What are your thoughts on Simon Gagne?

I personally think they should move on. If he signs for $1.2-1.5M than I guess I could live with it.

- stveshdy


i wouldn't be angry if they resign him for something reasonable (short term and no more than 2.5... which is already probably a little higher than i'm comfortable with)

i'd probably rather see the young guys fight it out for that spot, though. i really wanna see tye mcginn get a full-time shot in the bottom six. we'll see how it plays out though
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 8 @ 11:28 AM ET
What are your thoughts on Simon Gagne?

I personally think they should move on. If he signs for $1.2-1.5M than I guess I could live with it.

- stveshdy


I like him at $1.5 to $2mm. Gagne, Couts and Talbot, the French Connection, would be a solid shutdown 3rd line with quite a bit of scoring potential. We need that.
FlyerLifer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 09.11.2007

Jun 8 @ 11:30 AM ET
5 million a year for Gonchar? Yikes...
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 8 @ 11:31 AM ET
i wouldn't be angry if they resign him for something reasonable (short term and no more than 2.5... which is already probably a little higher than i'm comfortable with)

i'd probably rather see the young guys fight it out for that spot, though. i really wanna see tye mcginn get a full-time shot in the bottom six. we'll see how it plays out though

- FlyerMike18



I'm with ya.


And Bill - fantastic write up as always!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 8 @ 11:31 AM ET
I like him at $1.5 to $2mm. Gagne, Couts and Talbot, the French Connection, would be a solid shutdown 3rd line with quite a bit of scoring potential. We need that.
- wolfhounds


I'm not sure what the Flyers are going to do with him. Anything over 1.5M I would let him walk.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 8 @ 11:34 AM ET
5 million a year for Gonchar? Yikes...
- FlyerLifer


I don't like that signing either. Too much money for Gonchar.
FlyerLifer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 09.11.2007

Jun 8 @ 11:36 AM ET
I don't like that signing either. Too much money for Gonchar.
- stveshdy


My god, that means that Pietrangelo could get 12 million a year in the open market easily.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 8 @ 11:37 AM ET
My god, that means that Pietrangelo could get 12 million a year in the open market easily.
- FlyerLifer


I thought the salary cap was suppose to help from having these ridiculous cap hits but obviously I was wrong.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 8 @ 11:46 AM ET
5 million a year for Gonchar? Yikes...
- FlyerLifer


pat brisson's day just got a little brighter
FlyerLifer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 09.11.2007

Jun 8 @ 11:58 AM ET
pat brisson's day just got a little brighter
- FlyerMike18


Unreal...
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 8 @ 11:59 AM ET
Sergei Gonchar signing for that is actually GREAT NEWS for the Flyers.

Because as of this moment, Andrej Meszaros, with one year left on his contract at a cap hit of $4 million...there's no way he can't be valued at less than a second-round pick in this year's draft. It's impossible!

I understand completely that Sergei Gonchar had a statistically strong season with a playoff team, and yes, his camp could easily argue that he was worth $5 million, which clearly they did and the Stars agreed. Good for them.

But at the same time, you can't tell me that if the Flyers decide to trade Meszaros for salary cap flexibility, SOMEBODY isn't going to look at what you have to pay defensemen in today's NHL and pony up a second for Meszaros, at $4 million for one season.

I know he's been injured. I know, I know, I know.

But there is NO WAY that there isn't one team in the league who is looking around and saying, "Oh, my gosh. We can't pay that kind of money. Who's available for $4 million who can actually play?"
FlyerLifer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 09.11.2007

Jun 8 @ 12:06 PM ET
Sergei Gonchar signing for that is actually GREAT NEWS for the Flyers.

Because as of this moment, Andrej Meszaros, with one year left on his contract at a cap hit of $4 million...there's no way he can't be valued at less than a second-round pick in this year's draft. It's impossible!

I understand completely that Sergei Gonchar had a statistically strong season with a playoff team, and yes, his camp could easily argue that he was worth $5 million, which clearly they did and the Stars agreed. Good for them.

But at the same time, you can't tell me that if the Flyers decide to trade Meszaros for salary cap flexibility, SOMEBODY isn't going to look at what you have to pay defensemen in today's NHL and pony up a second for Meszaros, at $4 million for one season.

I know he's been injured. I know, I know, I know.

But there is NO WAY that there isn't one team in the league who is looking around and saying, "Oh, my gosh. We can't pay that kind of money. Who's available for $4 million who can actually play?"

- AllInForFlyers


I think this actually will mean the flyers will go with what they have and see what happens.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 8 @ 12:09 PM ET
I think this actually will mean the flyers will go with what they have and see what happens.
- FlyerLifer


The reason I believe Meszaros could be traded is if the Flyers do decide to keep Bryzgalov for one more year. If you do that, even with buying Daniel Briere out, you still probably need to loosen up a little cap space, and Meszaros, again, only has one year left on his deal.
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